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Scan 3XS Carbon Extreme 17″ Gaming Laptop (Clevo P775DM3-G)

Please read this forum thread before you consider purchasing a laptop from Scan 3XS http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/3xs-carbon-extreme-p775dm3-from-scan-uk.802451

I recently purchased a Scan 3XS Carbon Extreme to replace the previously owned PC Specialist Octane II, as after many issues PC Specialist eventually took the Octane II back and offered a full refund.



Scan 3XS LG17 Carbon Extreme

Chassis & Display: 17.3″ 4K G-sync 60Hz (3840 × 2160)
Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-7700k (4.2GHz) 8MB Cache
Memory (RAM): 32GB Corsair Vengeance 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 1080 DESKTOP – 8.0GB DDR5, G-SYNC – VR Ready
Thermal Paste: ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME
Wireless: INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC)

I will be installing Windows 10 Pro on the 512GB SAMSUNG 950 Pro M.2 which I kept from Octane, together with a Samsung  1TB 850 EVO and a 2TB Samsung 5400RPM HDD.


Unfortunately, the Clevo P775DM3-G suffers with exactly the same overheating issues present on the P775DM1-G. Well, it was actually quite a bit worse due to the increased processor performance and the extra heat this generates.

So much for the supposedly improved heatsink design – shame on you, Clevo!

16/02/2017
Before I returned the laptop to Scan I had renamed it the Scan 3XS Carbon Extremely Hot. I am hoping I just got a bad example of an Intel i7-7700K (rumours are there are plenty of them about!) and that the replacement brings 100% load temperatures down to a more acceptable level.

20/02/2017
The first report from Scan’s engineer was encouraging, a replacement 7700K CPU seemed to bring the temperatures down – so it looked like I had originally got a potato, a very hot potato! However, it was then discovered that the charger (PSU) was supplying the incorrect voltage, so a new one was sourced.
Next, it was decided to replace the entire chassis,  just in case the power anomaly had caused any damage. Following this Scan went a bit quiet. It was then reported that they could not get the temperatures below 90 celsius when both the GPU and CPU were running at 100%.
The laptop was returned within 14 days, so I hope to be receiving a full refund fairly soon.

Combining the power of an Intel i7-7700K and Nvidia GTX1080 in a laptop with an inadequate cooling solution means you will have to make compromises. Don’t expect to be able to use it out-of-the-box for any program which will stress the GPU and CPU together, without temperatures getting ridiculously high. You will need to undervolt the CPU, you will need to disable the 4.5GHz turbo boost feature and limit the CPU to run at a maximum of 4.2GHz, you will probably start looking into how to delid a Kaby Lake CPU and you will definitely need to invest in a decent laptop cooler or just ignore the temperatures (which I think Scan does when they do their post-build QC and testing).

25/02/2017
I am now looking into obtaining a Clevo P870KM1-G with a single GTX1080 and a delidded i7-7700K, apparently, the cooling solution on the P870’s is a lot better than on the P775’s. So I am hoping to have a review on here soon! 

28/02/2017
Then Nvidia announced the GTX980ti and AMD release the Ryzen. I will now be looking at building a mini-ITX to directly hook up to our 4K TV, instead of using the Nvidia Shield TV to harness the power of the laptop to stream to it using Gamestream. I should still have some change from the budgeted cost of the P870KM1-G to buy a cheap or refurbished laptop with a 1060 or 1070 in it. The 1070 will still be more powerful than the GTX980 in the P775DM1-G that went back a while ago!

03/03/2017
Well, after a lot of what should be unnecessary nagging, Scan have eventually got round to ‘processing’ the refund. They have really dragged this out.
If you do want a good gaming machine with a GTX1080 then the P775DM3-G is still a good one but it really is pointless putting the Intel I7-7700K in there too. Apparently, the i7-7700 runs cooler or perhaps try the i5. I did try a 6700K in the chassis and that will run OK with a good repaste and a fair amount of tweaking but don’t expect to do any overclocking. If you are after something that will do rendering or anything else which requires grunt from the CPU and GPU at the same time, then please look elsewhere for your desktop replacement machine.

PC Specialist Octane II Pro a.k.a Clevo P775DM1-G

PC Specialist Octane II Pro (Clevo P775DM1-G)

PLEASE BE WARNED. A MAXED OUT SPECIFICATION CLEVO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PERFORM AT 100% LOADS WITHOUT SEVERE OVERHEATING OR PERFORMANCE THROTTLING. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS FORUM


A desktop processor and graphics card in a laptop? A laptop capable of playing games at frame rates and with processing performance once only reserved for monstrous towers? Hell, yeah!

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The Clevo P775DM1-G is available as the DL7X from Eurocom, XMG U716 from Schenker and Octane II Pro from PC Specialist, amongst others.


I was able to source a ‘barebones’ Clevo P775DM1-G , which is basically just the laptop case, screen, keyboard and graphics card. However, by the time all of the other components had been costed, I found that UK-based PC Specialist are incredibly competitive on price. Also, buying just the base unit from a third party would have left me with very little cover in terms of warranties.

Here are the full details of the unit ordered.


SPECIFICATION: Octane II Pro [Clevo P775DM1-G]


Chassis & Display Octane Series: 17.3″ Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920×1080)
Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-6700k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
Memory (RAM): 32GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 980 DESKTOP – 8.0GB DDR5, G-SYNC – VR Ready
M.2 SSD Drive: 512GB SAMSUNG 950 Pro M.2, PCIe NVMe
Other Drives (Customer installing): 512GB Crucial M4 SSD + 2TB Samsung 5400RPM HDD
Memory Card Reader: Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader
Thermal Paste: ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME
Sound Card: Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless: INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) +BT 4.0, vPRO
Wired Networking: Qualcomm® 10/100/1000Mb Base-TX Ethernet LAN
USB Options: 4 x USB 3.0 Ports + 1 x USB 3.1 Port with Thunderbolt
Battery: Octane Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (82WH)
Power Cable: 1 x UK Power Lead & 330W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language: OCTANE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System: NOT REQUIRED – Customer installing Windows 10 Pro
Operating System Language: United Kingdom – English Language
Mouse: INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam: INTEGRATED 2.0 MP FULL HD WEBCAM
Warranty: 3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Dead Pixel Guarantee: 1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs
Delivery: STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time: Standard Build – Approximately 5 to 7 working days


The machine arrived a couple of weeks after the order was placed. The standard delivery was with DPD who are excellent, a one-hour delivery slot was sent via text on the morning of delivery and it arrived well within the allocated time. There are probably plenty of unboxing videos on YouTube, so we will skip all of that!

On first impressions, it does not look much and surprisingly, it is actually not a great deal bigger than my aging Dell 17R 7720 SE.

Clevo P775DM1-G vs. Dell 17R 7720 SE

The BIOS is shockingly sparse and who the…. are Style Note? It looks like this one came without any PC Specialist branding!

Clevo P775DM1-G has quite a sparse BIOS

Clevo P775DM1-G boot logo

As I had ordered it without the operating system, PC Specialist do install a test version of Windows 10 Home. So once you have it plugged in it is ready to have a quick play around with if you so wish. After a few quick checks, the Samsung 950 Pro was reformatted and Windows 10 Pro was incredibly quickly installed.


25/04/2016 – A quick update.

I had noticed some backlight bleed when on a dark screen, this became more evident whilst performing a dead pixel test using the following http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php. When viewing the true black screen, the glow from the bottom left-hand becomes incredibly noticeable.

PC Specialist Clevo backlight bleed

I have contacted PCS and their engineer agrees that this backlight bleed is excessive. Unfortunately, there appears to be a bit of an issue when it comes to screen replacements for the P775DM1-G, as you can read here:- https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/9208-p775dm1-g-g-sync-lost-after-screen-repair/


So I am just waiting to hear back from PCS to find out if this screen mix-up can be avoided before I send it back under an RMA or have the machine replaced. (Screen = 17.3″ LG LP173WF4-SPF1 FHD IPS Matte 1920 x 1080)

30/04/2016 – Further update.

Now PCS has my money they really don’t seem to give a flying eff, the best that I have got from them so far is ‘Return it for RMA and we will get it back to you as soon as possible’. They have not given me any assurance they have the correct screen in stock and have so far not acknowledged that there is an issue with correct screen identification on this model. I am getting slightly annoyed.

06/05/2016 – Further update.

Following a bit of a rant, PCS have now given me assurance that they have the correct replacement screen in stock, it has been tested and it is being reserved to go in this laptop. The laptop is now on it’s way back to them.

11/05/2016 – Further update.

PC Specialist do not seem to understand the meaning of priority. Having been promised my RMA would be treated as a priority, the fact they received it back at lunchtime on Monday and here we are Wednesday evening and  it has not even been looked at yet is beginning to make me think they are just a complete shower of you-know-what.

14/05/2016 – It’s back – eventually.

I sent a fairly strongly worded message on Wednesday and got a phone call from a supervisor that evening. I was promised my RMA was top of the pile for a technician to fix the following morning, all going well it would be tested and dispatched the same day for delivery on Friday. I received a message on Thursday afternoon to say that the screen had been replaced, testing had been done and it was ready for collection by courier. I was not a happy bunny when I got a phone call at 18:46 Thursday evening to say it had not been sent. It’s just a good job PCS did see fit to get it dispatched on Friday for a Saturday morning delivery. It turned up before 12:00!

The new screen is still not perfect but on first inspection it does appear to have significantly less backlight bleed than the one it replaced. Just waiting for it to get dark so I can take a direct comparison photograph.
The BIOS has also been refreshed to display a PC Specialist boot logo instead of that disappointing Style Note one. PC Specialist have also agreed to refresh my warranty start date to coincide with receipt of the laptop back from this RMA.

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Well, that is disappointing. With the settings exactly the same as in the previous picture one could almost be mistaken for thinking this is the same screen! *Bangs head in disbelief*

Here are a couple photographs taken in the dark…

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0% Brightness

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50% Brightness

And as you can probably imagine, at 100% brightness the screen is absolutely disgusting. Well done PC Specialist.

To cut a long story short, after a lot more issues the laptop finally went back for a refund.

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